EPISODE 27: a #DEFUND special report

Our June interview is a must-listen for anyone --especially New Yorkers-- eager for police reform. From a budget standpoint, what does it actually MEAN to #defundthepolice? What are they spending all that money on, anyway? What does pragmatic change look like? Our darling friend and DC budget nerd Janani Ramachandran Yates takes us through her detailed analysis of the NYPD budget and it is FASCINATING, y'all.

But first: we talk protests; we consider fleeing New York City (!); plus, all these fireworks inspire Andrew to take us down the country roads of his childhood memory.
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